Honestly I could give a crap less what the rest of the country does for their water.
I’m only concerned with the 500,000 people in my service area.
No one wants a well here unless they need irrigation water.
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I’m only concerned with the 500,000 people in my service area.
No one wants a well here unless they need irrigation water.
Yeah, I agree with you, particularly after now having lived with both types of systems. If I had to choose between a private system like Aqua America or a well, it might be a wash, but municipal vs. well.....no brainer; I'd go with city water.
Like was said, private water companies and municipalities have the same kind of pumps used for individual houses. These pumps and controls are just larger than those used for a single home. You are just paying someone else to maintain the pump system for you. This makes you subject to restrictions, regulations, and ever increasing costs. Learning how to maintain your own water system lets you stay in control. Adding a CSV can give so many years of trouble free service that many people forget they have a water system. People that have a CSV and therefore don't have problems with their water well would never switch to a public water system.
Also, many people on public water systems still use a booster pump and a CSV because the city water pressure in inadequate.
Also, many people on public water systems still use a booster pump and a CSV because the city water pressure in inadequate.
I understand you have a financial interest in water wells……
I don’t. Our city water is excellent.
Wells are a pain in the ass. Simple as that.
Real short and simple, no need for me to write a book about why.
I am glad you have good city water. The city must have some Cycle Stop Valves. Lol! But we sell a ton of controls for booster pumps because the city water pressure is inadequate or non existent. Booster pumps and well pumps were both pains in the ass until the Cycle Stop Valve was introduced. Now they can be so trouble free for so long many people forget they have a pump.
Sure I make a little grocery money when someone buys a $200 valve from me, been making a living that way for 30+ years. I have to make a little on each sale because it is the last time I will ever get to sell that customer anything, as he/she will never have another pump problem. But I am by no means wealthy, like the people who sell VFD's, tankless controls, and pumps over and over to the same people. Planned obsolescence and repeat sales is what other companies strive for. Our CSV was labeled a "Disruptive" product by several pump manufacturers many years ago. A "disruptive" product is one that makes pumps last longer and use smaller pressure tanks. Most of the major pump manufactures sell Cycle Stop Valves when nothing else has worked. But they will not admit is because they want you to try everything else first. People who have tried everything else first will tell you it would be hard to improve on a Cycle Stop Valve.
Sure I make a little grocery money when someone buys a $200 valve from me, been making a living that way for 30+ years. I have to make a little on each sale because it is the last time I will ever get to sell that customer anything, as he/she will never have another pump problem. But I am by no means wealthy, like the people who sell VFD's, tankless controls, and pumps over and over to the same people. Planned obsolescence and repeat sales is what other companies strive for. Our CSV was labeled a "Disruptive" product by several pump manufacturers many years ago. A "disruptive" product is one that makes pumps last longer and use smaller pressure tanks. Most of the major pump manufactures sell Cycle Stop Valves when nothing else has worked. But they will not admit is because they want you to try everything else first. People who have tried everything else first will tell you it would be hard to improve on a Cycle Stop Valve.
I rebuilt this pressure regulator today, replaced the pressure gauge and replaced the pressure tank.
Pentair Sta-rite MSG-7 2hp.
The chickens can drink now. Well man said it would be at least a week before he could look at it. 3 others didn’t answer the phone.
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Do It yourself is always best, then you know the quality of the workmanship, and you know who to blame. 8*)
Good discussion, not taking sides here, but I like knowing my water isn't being chlorinated , or whatever other chemicals they put in. I also like not being told I need to boil my water for the next week ir two until the lines clear from a problem they had. On the flip side, how in the world do you know what's comming out of your well, that can change day to day. We carbon filter, and run our water through a kdf filter. Plus being paranoid, we also use a distiller to create our drinking cooking water. (Maybe 1 or 2 gallons a say) getting good clean water has become a problem no matter where you get it. I just like to control mine as best I can. (But, boy do I dislike the taste of chlorinated water)
New one ready to go
We put it all back together and the flow rate really didn’t change much.
We think the screen is clogged with iron. The flow rate of this well isn’t enough anyway even if it was operating at full capacity so we’re not wasting any more resources on it.
It’s 84’ of pipe down the well currently.
There goes $1,000 out the window
We are having a new 4” well drilled and a submersible installed. It’ll be a few hundred feet deep.
We think the screen is clogged with iron. The flow rate of this well isn’t enough anyway even if it was operating at full capacity so we’re not wasting any more resources on it.
It’s 84’ of pipe down the well currently.
There goes $1,000 out the window
We are having a new 4” well drilled and a submersible installed. It’ll be a few hundred feet deep.
That's a shame, I hate spending money and then it not working. I don't love the taste of iron either, (allthough I am iron deficient) my well doesn't have any iron, but if it did my filter is suppose to take care of it. Speaking of my filter, I'm about due to change out the media. ( once every 7 years) going to wait until it's cooler outside to do that work. Good luck with the new well. Are you going to have a water Witcher find you a spot ? I found my spot with 2 bent welding rods. Amazing how they cross when you go over water.
Do those water witchers really work?
Absolutly, I witched my own well, and I didn't have a clue about how to do it or how it worked. I wasctold it would work with welding rods, bend them into 90 degrees, hold one in each hand very loosely about 6 inches apart. And just walk around until they cross. So, I tried it. It was amazing how they would cross, sometimes very slow, sometimes they would move very quickly. I picked my spot and hit 35 gpm at 40 feet. So I have a 65 foot well, pump is at 40, static water level is at 15.
Everyone else around me is at 2-300 feet. So I believe in it. You can find buried water pipes too.
I found where water lines were buried at several different houses. Don't ask me how that works though, but I did find them.
Everyone else around me is at 2-300 feet. So I believe in it. You can find buried water pipes too.
I found where water lines were buried at several different houses. Don't ask me how that works though, but I did find them.
I'm a register Professional Engineer and need to understand hard facts as to how things work. However, dowsing is something that I cannot understand, but I do believe works. Not everyone has the ability to do it with the accuracy that "professional dowsers" can provide. My dad told me that when my grandfather bought his farm in the late 1920's, he had a dowser witch a well. The dowser said he would hit water at 60 feet, but the recovery rate would be rather low and that it could be drawn dry. To get a constant supply of water, he would have to go down over 575 feet. They did hit water at around 60 feet and my dad could draw it dry in about 20 minutes. They drilled down 596 feet, and the water was cold, clear, and never ran out.
Here is an interesting article that provides some proof for dowsing and what happened when my grandfather drilled his well. Oh, this dowser used a fresh peach tree fork.
"There is one study, conducted by the German government in the 1990s, that perplexed the scientific community. During this study’s 10-year research period, researchers paired up experienced geologists and dowsers, sending them to dry regions like Sri Lanka, Kenya, and Yemen. Scientists were surprised to find that many of the dowsers were spot-on. In Sri Lanka alone, drill teams drilled 691 wells under the supervision of dowsers and found water 96% of the time.
Now, skeptics would argue that the reason for this is simple: No matter where you drill, as long as you’re willing to drill deep enough, you’re bound to find water eventually. However, in this particular study, the dowsers were also asked to tell their drill teams at what depth they’d find the water and how much water they would find. The study’s findings showed that the dowsers’ predictions concerning depth and volume were accurate to within 10% to 20%.
No one knows why dowsing works—or if, indeed, it does work. Some researchers believe that humans can detect the presence of water by some trace amount of energy that it releases. Others believe that the talent is all in the dowsing rod. Still more say that this art is nothing more than a clever hoax."
Here is an interesting article that provides some proof for dowsing and what happened when my grandfather drilled his well. Oh, this dowser used a fresh peach tree fork.
"There is one study, conducted by the German government in the 1990s, that perplexed the scientific community. During this study’s 10-year research period, researchers paired up experienced geologists and dowsers, sending them to dry regions like Sri Lanka, Kenya, and Yemen. Scientists were surprised to find that many of the dowsers were spot-on. In Sri Lanka alone, drill teams drilled 691 wells under the supervision of dowsers and found water 96% of the time.
Now, skeptics would argue that the reason for this is simple: No matter where you drill, as long as you’re willing to drill deep enough, you’re bound to find water eventually. However, in this particular study, the dowsers were also asked to tell their drill teams at what depth they’d find the water and how much water they would find. The study’s findings showed that the dowsers’ predictions concerning depth and volume were accurate to within 10% to 20%.
No one knows why dowsing works—or if, indeed, it does work. Some researchers believe that humans can detect the presence of water by some trace amount of energy that it releases. Others believe that the talent is all in the dowsing rod. Still more say that this art is nothing more than a clever hoax."
There are believers and then there are those that don't. I just know it worked for me.
And holy cow, ..... bugs / fish in the well.
And holy cow, ..... bugs / fish in the well.
Just as a layman, with no experience, I believe I can go onto a property and just using my eyes, I could look for undulations and rises/drops on the property, look for outcroppings, darker green plants, and have a pretty good idea where water would/could be found. Isn't it correct that dousers also utilize their eyes to help do this same thing?
Maybe I'm just a skeptic, and don't believe anything I read and only half that I see.
Maybe I'm just a skeptic, and don't believe anything I read and only half that I see.
Perhaps, but the well my grandfather had drilled was on perfectly flat land with no dips or trees until he planted them. He milked cows and pasteurized the milk in the basement of his house and used the well water to cool it down. He had a manual milk bottle cleaning station and a crank DeLaval cream separator that was still operating when I was around in the early 50s. His operation DEFINETLY wouldn't pass any inspections today, but it made it possible for him to get through the depression and he prospered well through WWII. He turned away from the "commercial" milk industry and started raising registered Black Angus bulls in the 50s. And that well then watered a few thousand cattle, a four-acre garden, a small 10 tree orchard, and was working great until my hometown grew and he turned his farm inti a new subdivision. A McDonalds currently sit right on top of that 596 foot well.
New 4” well drilled today, casing set.
