American standard flushvalve in the trash 
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My house had carpet when we moved in. The toilet in my bathroom was installed over the carpet. It was fluffier carpet than in your pic. And it was incredibly nasty. Especially after the tenants didn't get the septic tank drained and the sewer backed up and overflowed from toilets all over that carpet.
Got that Toto Drake installed. IMO they cost too much. Flange was really high and it was broken.
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Looks like a great install! I am looking at three of those myself.
Thanks. I cleaned my wax seal up a little before I set the toilet. I used two wax seals and I removed the excess before I set the toilet. The seals I use are kinda thin so I double them some times then remove a little.
Hence the screen name two wax hack? 
The vortens come with a 3” flapper. But it sits on a 2” flushvalve outlet. 2” hole through the tank, not 3”.
So you could junk the 3” flapper and goofy flushvalve. Install a common everyday 2” flushvalve with any type 2” flapper you want.
2” flappers are cheaper and plentiful.
It comes with a fluidmaster ballcock.
The tank bolts are coated steel…..not good. But you can swap those to brass and then you’ll have a 20 yr tank to bowl life.
The flush handle is crap but most are…..you can get a good one for $25.00 that will last the life of the toilet. I’ll post a link if you’re interested.
I can hack together a toilet that will outperform a Drake and still have money to get drunk and go to the show bar….
Drakes come with a proprietary flush tower crap show. The tank handles are $30 plus and last about 3-5 years. The drakes do have descent tank bolts but my replacements are better than what Toto uses.
My vorten will out flush the Drake and I can make the vorten flush 2.5 gallons or down to 1.6. My choice.
You hear that Terry Toto ?
So you could junk the 3” flapper and goofy flushvalve. Install a common everyday 2” flushvalve with any type 2” flapper you want.
2” flappers are cheaper and plentiful.
It comes with a fluidmaster ballcock.
The tank bolts are coated steel…..not good. But you can swap those to brass and then you’ll have a 20 yr tank to bowl life.
The flush handle is crap but most are…..you can get a good one for $25.00 that will last the life of the toilet. I’ll post a link if you’re interested.
I can hack together a toilet that will outperform a Drake and still have money to get drunk and go to the show bar….
Drakes come with a proprietary flush tower crap show. The tank handles are $30 plus and last about 3-5 years. The drakes do have descent tank bolts but my replacements are better than what Toto uses.
My vorten will out flush the Drake and I can make the vorten flush 2.5 gallons or down to 1.6. My choice.
You hear that Terry Toto ?
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LOL. Shots fired at Terry Love! LOL. I have a Toto Drake but the Entrada is just as good and is much cheaper. We got an Entrada on sale for my friend's house. We had some ulterior motives. We were evacuated there and he had a super short 50yr old crapper that barely flushed-- especially after his grandfather clogged it. Man used an entire pack of wet wipes in one sitting and flushed them all. I saw the Entrada on sale and ordered for fast delivery. Got it installed and friend evicted the grandfather (not over the toilet issue). It's chair height so it was much easier for Mom to use and flushes great.
You can still get the old 3" flapper for the Drakes. My old one has that but I might get the new flush tower. Entrada can use the same tower. My newer ADA height Drake came with the tower.
I do agree that the flush handle is crap. The part you touch is metal but it has plastic right inside that breaks. Had two last 5 years before breaking. That's why I got much cheaper universal handles that are all metal. Although, Mom didn't like the one I got bc she said it was the shape of a cat turd. LOL.
The old layout in my friend's bathroom (albiet with a new vanity and shower set in place-- both of those have since been replaced though).
New layout-- you can see edge of shower and the Toto Entrada.
You can still get the old 3" flapper for the Drakes. My old one has that but I might get the new flush tower. Entrada can use the same tower. My newer ADA height Drake came with the tower.
I do agree that the flush handle is crap. The part you touch is metal but it has plastic right inside that breaks. Had two last 5 years before breaking. That's why I got much cheaper universal handles that are all metal. Although, Mom didn't like the one I got bc she said it was the shape of a cat turd. LOL.
The old layout in my friend's bathroom (albiet with a new vanity and shower set in place-- both of those have since been replaced though).
New layout-- you can see edge of shower and the Toto Entrada.
Truth be told, I liked the two hole outhouse that my grandfather had on the farm in south central Nebraska. The hand pump for obtaining drinking water was great and after the kernels were removed for feeding the livestock, those corn cobs did indeed come in handy. Life was simpler, kinder and gentler back then and you didn't ever need a plumber.
I always loved this 4 holer, found in a backwoods classroom. It was unisex as well. 
Splinter heaven!
From my recollection, I would not describe a corn cob as kinder and gentler!!
I think that is the origin of, "pain in the butt!"
I may have told this before, but my father told me a story about his father from his father's childhood. They had an outhouse instead of indoor plumbing and there was a hole in the back wall under the seat. My grandfather waited until one of his sisters was in the outhouse on the seat and found a 2-pronged stick. He poked her in the butt while making a snake hissing sound to startle her. She apparently came running out with her skirt over her head.
Havasu, that reminds me of the Roman toilets, but those were made of stone.
Havasu, that reminds me of the Roman toilets, but those were made of stone.
cliffyk
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I grew up on a dairy farm in upstate New York, we had a 'two-holer" until the mid-50s. when the barn got plumbing and electricity--the cows were much more important that the people...
Indeed it would be! Ever see the Asian squat toilets? They don't like to sit...
Those a made by The Who Flung Doo corporation I think.
