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To get right to it (I'll answer questions to flesh this out as you need it)...
In Maryland (my own house)...
REPLACING...
WHAT I ASK OF YOU ALL: What can I do now? (the sooner the better, please! From: family with young children without a kitchen sink)
As I see it, MY KNOWN OPTIONS ARE (besides the obvious, "call a plumber to save me"):
EXPECTED FOLLOW-UP QUESTION #1: Why do you want a Wye on the floor?
A: To install an easy-access clean-out on the 45 at the bottom of this drain. (and eliminate the Fernco, of course)
But WHY? A: The long, shallow-incline pipe from the back to the front of the house is ALWAYS backing up. Crap probably cools 3/4 of the way down the horizontal. The Fernco was probably put in when the first plumber to this house (post-sale) cut the original pipe in order to snake it. I've disassembled all this old plumbing countless times to hand-snake it myself. Any future owner will have to snake this periodically or have it done.
I'll leave any other f/u questions to the experts here. I'll answer as quickly as I can. I have a big stake in getting this done ASAP.
NOTE: I did LOTS of research on how to do this right before starting. I've probably heard all of the "level 1" advice multiple times. I think I'd need level 2 or 3 advice from here. But please offer anything.
In Maryland (my own house)...
REPLACING...
- Fernco 2"x2" coupling between... (the next 2 black bullets)
- 2" PVC vert. pipe (going up into Char 2x2" long-turn elbow, eventually leading up to sinks)
- 2" PVC pipe into floor
- pipe warped on the water side (>2")
- 3" high out of floor of kitchen sink cabinet
- NIBCO All Hub all-2" PVC Wye between...
- NIBCO Spigot x Hub all-2" PVC long-turn Elbow (spigot end into top Wye hub, of course)
- hacksawed and measured level, same 2" PVC pipe, now 2" high out of floor (cut at the end of the obvious warping)
- after Oakey solvent weld (yes, purple + cement + twist + hold), this joint leaks on warped side between Wye bottom hub and floor pipe
- I just welded this a few hours ago (as of this writing) ... if that matters
- all my other welds on this project appear to be great and holding fine (no leaks or movement)
- this was the one joint where things never fit tight during dry mock-up (I hoped the cement would remedy that ... I mean, what else to do on a 2" in-floor pipe + a 2" hub?)
- a good 30min after weld, I thought I saw movement between the joints (seen through the 45 hole) ... thought it might be my eyes (hoped)
WHAT I ASK OF YOU ALL: What can I do now? (the sooner the better, please! From: family with young children without a kitchen sink)
As I see it, MY KNOWN OPTIONS ARE (besides the obvious, "call a plumber to save me"):
- Look-up articles, forum posts, and YouTube videos re: whether there's any way to undo the floor weld without hacksawing my last usable inch from floor?
...which is a precursor to... - ... then put the old crap back together (I think it all still works).
- ... OR then get a PPI Compression 2" Wye (to get a better, removable, retryable seal without Fernco).
- BUT, is there any other acceptable option where I don't have to remove the leaking Wye at all and I can somehow seal that up and move forward?
EXPECTED FOLLOW-UP QUESTION #1: Why do you want a Wye on the floor?
A: To install an easy-access clean-out on the 45 at the bottom of this drain. (and eliminate the Fernco, of course)
But WHY? A: The long, shallow-incline pipe from the back to the front of the house is ALWAYS backing up. Crap probably cools 3/4 of the way down the horizontal. The Fernco was probably put in when the first plumber to this house (post-sale) cut the original pipe in order to snake it. I've disassembled all this old plumbing countless times to hand-snake it myself. Any future owner will have to snake this periodically or have it done.
I'll leave any other f/u questions to the experts here. I'll answer as quickly as I can. I have a big stake in getting this done ASAP.
NOTE: I did LOTS of research on how to do this right before starting. I've probably heard all of the "level 1" advice multiple times. I think I'd need level 2 or 3 advice from here. But please offer anything.