Kitchen sink and dishwasher fully clogged, need help

[maddnotez]

Apologize in advance as this is a very long post.

Hello, hoping for some help and opinions. I think I have several issues here and hard to say what's what.

When I bought the home 5 years ago it failed inspection due to tree roots in the pipes, I dont know which tree or which pipes it was unfortunately.

The seller hired someone to clean them out and that was that. I have since neglected, I should be putting root killer in but idk where to put it. (any suggestions here would also be appreciated)

I had been planning to have the trees all cut down but I have not been able to do so financially.

So now I'm having major backup issues. I have two bathrooms upstairs, each with a sink, shower and toilet. I also have a kitchen sink and dishwasher.

All of the sinks have had very, very slow draining (the toilets and showers are fine) so I knew there was some kind of an issue but I let it go and I was willing to deal with a slow drain. Fast forward to last week my kitchen sink is now completely clogged and so is my dishwasher. I went to do dishes and my sink was completely full of water. I had to drain it manually by disconnecting the p-trap.

I had a cheap local plumber come out the other day, he was able to unclog the drain in my bathroom sink which is great but he ran a 50 ft snake machine into the stack underneath my kitchen sink and he was not able to remove that clog unfortunately.

So now here I am and I called a larger company that want about $200 for the kitchen sink. Being pretty strapped these days financially that's a little bit more than I would like to pay but if that's what it cost then so be it.

So those are essentially all the symptoms and my current situation.. now my questions are is it possible that the tree roots are back and that's what's backing everything up?

I spoke with the service lady on the phone at the plumbing company and while I'm sure she knows way more than I do, she was 100% convinced that my tree roots have nothing to do with my issue in the kitchen and she said that would only cause an issue with my toilets. My toilets are perfectly fine.

The thing is I don't want to pay someone $200 to re-snake my kitchen for a temporary fix if the source of my issue are the tree roots growing into my pipes again.

When I called the plumbing company my sole intention and my ask was to have someone come out and cut out the tree roots but she almost insisted that I was wrong and that I needed my sink stack done with a longer snake than the last guy had.

Also could it be something as simple as the P trap under my sink? I replaced the "P" portion but I have not cut and redone the straight pipe that goes into the wall (which I could do no problem)

The Final piece i can add is I replaced my garbage disposal myself, I'm 100% sure I removed the cap for the dishwasher hose but coincidentally this is around the time my kitchen sink started drianing slowly.

Any help or advice our feedback anyone has would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Geofd]

The 1st thing you need to do is call a reputable DRAIN CLEANING CO. not a plumbing co drain cleaning co's specialize in drains you need your main drain camerad
Roots cut, and roots treated,and a maintenance plan. Don't go crazy cutting trees down Ive had root jobs were trees have been cut down years before,

 

[Rossando]

Like Geofd said, get your sewer line inspected with a camera to tell what's going on, if its a main sewer line issue or a secondary line issue. We have seen it all so us guessing your problem only leads you in a downward spiral. I have seen roots grow into just the secondary lines it all depends where the problem starts and if that's the pathway the tree roots go. Pricing is hard to say but if they are using a 3/8-1/2 cable and a decent drum drain cleaning machine they should be able to clear the clog. 200 seems fair but I'm in California and I wouldn't touch the main for that unless I can give no warranty and paying cash.
I just had a lady ask me to get my mini-jetter after us trying a to cable her outside floor drain for an hour and expect it to be included into the 150.00 price!!! Unfortunately she declined the extra service for the additional machine, so instead we went one last time with a 3/8" cable and dawn dishsoap behind it and called it a day. She called us shady for trying to charge her more but she paid and we left, got a call the next day asking us to come back and snake it out better. Inside was nothing but grease and she blamed the neighbors for throwing oil in her 2" floor drain when she has a mechanic shop and engines all in this outdoor space...lady this should be 3" inch sespool drain and its not even vented....*** me. People think we are miracle workers but when something is messed up/not right I communicate it and still give it my best effort, sometimes its a bigger issue and I'm sorry to vent just wanted to explain how it goes sometimes.

 

[pasadena_commut]

Don't go crazy cutting trees down Ive had root jobs were trees have been cut down years before,

We had terrible problems with roots from the two city trees in the front yard. Since they finally agreed to let me cut those down we have not had another problem. It has been, I'm not sure exactly, something like 15 years, with nary a tree root. We did have a bush right next to the house wiggle a root in at the coupling between the cast iron drain under the house and the new ABS cleanout, which was nowhere near the clay section where the tree root were. Removed the bush, loosened up the coupling, pulled the root out, retightened it, and good to go.

When the trees were still up those pipes were rootered I forget how many times, and scoped twice. Oh the damage that those guys claimed was present. The whole thing is likely to collapse tomorrow! So bad that there was an urgent need to excavate and replace the whole system. Which of course didn't happen because I could see the monitor too, and there were just a few roots hanging down and the pipe was still straight, with no broken clay bits anywhere. Roots can definitely ball up in a pipe and be really hard to remove, but it is amazing how bad a clog can get from a few small roots a person could easily tear out by hand. Assuming that said person had a really small hand and a 50 ft long flexible arm!