Plumbing help

[ExtraMilePlumbing]

Hi guys.so i want to learn plumbing as fast as i can.so i can open my own company.i amcurrently working full time for a medium sized repaire co.im learning at a slow and expensive paste there.bad driving record is holding me back from joining a bigger co..anyways i am in search for a great book with as many trobleshoots as possible.does any one know of a great plumbing book with troublshoots and solutions..thank you very much in advance.

 

[frodo]

Hi guys.so i want to learn plumbing as fast as i can.so i can open my own company.i amcurrently working full time for a medium sized repaire co.im learning at a slow and expensive paste there.bad driving record is holding me back from joining a bigger co..anyways i am in search for a great book with as many trobleshoots as possible.does any one know of a great plumbing book with troublshoots and solutions..thank you very much in advance.

I suggest you slow down and learn. I do not know where you are. but In most states. you can not get a masters license till you have your journeymens for a year
it will take you 4 years to get your journeymens

you need to know the code, not just "tricks" and tricks come with experience. thee is NO book on short cuts to fixing plumbing.

you will have to settle with learning from that Grumpy,old ass plumber. he is a wealth of information

 

[Matt30]

Nobody's going to hire your company if you're not knowledgable. Becoming a good reputable plumber doesn't come from a book, it comes with experience. Maybe you need to take the steps necessary so you can join a better company first, then go out on your own.

Where I'm at, there's hundreds of small plumbing companies. Guys here seem to get their ticket then the next day they have their own business. Most of them sink their ship before it ever leaves the dock because they rush it. It's great you want to work for yourself, I personally don't have the balls to make that jump. Just take your time and make a name for yourself and get to know contractors first

 

[ExtraMilePlumbing]

Thank you two very much.you two gave me great advice.

 

[frodo]

you can not learn repair work at the expense of your customers.

you go to there home, to fix a problem. they do not want someone to stand around and think its this or that
time is money, you have to get in, fix it and get out, word of mouth in the repair business is EVERYTHNG.
also, call backs can kill a company. if you spend all day every other day, going back to the house you were at yesterday to fix crap you screwed up. you will be out of business quick.

little advice. when i was a helper, I was, BAR NONE, the fastest, quickest, helper that company had
I prided my self on being "TOP DAWG"
my old ass grumpy plumber took me aside one day and told me this

"SON, Aint noth'in wrong with being fast, BUT, not half ass'd fast"
"Slow your ass down" "pay attention to the details"

I took his advice and was a better plumber for it

 

[ExtraMilePlumbing]

Thank you frodo.but in the company where i am currently in that is the only way to learn.they pay us lousy commision and theres only one actual senior plumber ,that hes not even that good or ever picks up his phone.any ways . There is no wall i cant pass .i will succede . Just wondering if anyone recommends any great plumbing troubleshoot book.

 

[frodo]

find another company, sometimes you have to move on to move up

thats what i did, they did not want to train, so i found someone who did.

talk to your local plumbing inspector, bust up in his office, introduce yourself

tell him you want to learn, want to go to school, that you need his help in finding a class, and a company that is not crap.
I bet you a cold beer, he will help you
do not quit your job till you find another

also, you need to work on house construction also, learn how its put in, when you learn how its installed, you learn the "why" its done that way

 

[Matt30]

little advice. when i was a helper, I was, BAR NONE, the fastest, quickest, helper that company had
I prided my self on being "TOP DAWG"
my old ass grumpy plumber took me aside one day and told me this

"SON, Aint noth'in wrong with being fast, BUT, not half ass'd fast"
"Slow your ass down" "pay attention to the details"

I took his advice and was a better plumber for it

I was somewhat the opposite. Always took a little longer than what i should just to make the job look nice. Took a little heat for it but im still that way to this day. I take pride in my work and like to be thorough.

When i was doing sheet metal one thing i never forgot was my mentor telling me "Get good, then you get fast" after i became frustrated that i couldnt keep up with him. And it worked, after i got good at what i was doing, speed came. Thats something i tell any apprentice that works with me to this day.

This thread kind of makes me feel old. Im not even 30

 

[frodo]

your right. thats what i had to learn. slow down do it right, as my knowledge progressed
so did my attention to detail.

but, now i am old, I let the younger guys go 100 miles an hour

I am like the old bull now

2 bulls , a old one and a young one were walking the pasture
they came to a hill, and looked down into the valley
it was full of cows.
the young bull said to the old bull
come on! lets run down there and do one of them cows
the old bull said, lets walk down there and do them all

 

[ExtraMilePlumbing]

Thank you guys .this is exactly the type of advice i love to hear.right now mentors are more valuable to me then anything.ots hard fonding good ones in small companys.so i will look for a bigger company.as soon as i erase one point taken away from my driving record.by using online driving classes

 

[phishfood]

You can learn something from everyone, if you pay attention and are capable of separating the "good" from the "bad".

I learned that lesson probably 12 years ago. There was this "plumber" I had to work around, he was a loud mouthed slacker, was known to show up on a job 1 1/2 hours after he left the shop, and promptly sit on a bucket and talk on the company supplied phone for an hour, before he could be bothered to start working. I went out every day just as soon as I could get loaded up for the day's jobs, hustled to the first one, and went at it hard all day. The owner was always after everybody about production, how he wasn't making any money, etc, and I knew that this guy was one of the problems.

Anyway, one day we got to talking about setting PVC shower pans, and he demonstrated how he did it. He would lay the pan material out flat, fold it in thirds longwise, than in thirds shortwise. Then he would carry it over to the shower and set it down in the center of the shower, and unfold it. This one thing sped me up by 10 or so minutes on every pan I have done since then, and a slacker big mouth taught me, because I was willing to listen to him for 5 minutes.

 

[ExtraMilePlumbing]

Thats great advice.thanks. thatsvkind of like what jim rohn preached.sometimes youre worst enemy can give you sugar,and youre best friend can give you poison.moral of story always stand guard.