How do i remove this

[johnpa]

Hi this is a moen roman tub diverter , i can not figure out how to get the diverter out. i have attached a picture of the top and bottom

 

[Mr_David]

You sure it is a Moen?
Try this link and see if you can find your valve here.
Maybe with some more info, I can help.

 

[Mr_David]

This a tool that takes out a small plastic treaded sleeve down inside some Roman tub valves

Cartridge-Retainer-Removal-Tool-for-2-Handle-Faucet

 

[johnpa]

Im 99% sure its a moen. the inside pipe is about .75 inches wide and the outside pipe is just under 1.5inches wide.

 

[johnpa]

these are the instructions from moen

View attachment ins251.pdf

 

[CT18]

Is it not mounted on the underside also

 

[johnpa]

it is threaded into the valve on the underside..not mounted

 

[SHEPLMBR]

In the firwst picture underneath the soap buble looks like a notch. That may be a retaining ring. It does not thread out underneath. that is one piece I believe

 

[johnpa]

yeah the retaining ring is what i need to remove in order to replace the cartridge for the diverter . i can't figure out how to get it out.

 

[Mr_David]

I see no retaining ring and I don't see one listed in the parts diagram.

When I have issues and I have a model and part # I just call their tech support.

 

[johnpa]

Thanks a lot, will try again and let you know!

 

[johnpa]

Mr_david , so i need that tool that you sent me previously to remove the holder?

 

[Mr_David]

Mr_david , so i need that tool that you sent me previously to remove the holder?

No! You don't need that tool.
That was for an older style faucet like a Monticello.
If a special tool was required it would show it in the diagram.

 

[Jamesplumbing06]

Looks like your ready to pull. If you just want stem out. Or maybe a flat head to turn the brass inner collar counterclockwise then pull. But moen makes them tight and water deposits tighter. If you can get a moen puller it will come right out. Or pull straight no wiggle out. But I suggest finding a ferguson express or plumbing supplier of your choice and getting the tool. You could break something

 

[johnpa]

It won't pull out , don't want to use to much force. We have hard water so it could possibly be stuck. I put some clr in there . Maybe that will help.

 

[Jamesplumbing06]

yeah it could be stuck and just needing the puller. They don't have a long puller so the regular works. I get a deep socket that will match the rim of the bigger brass body then put the puller on. Once you see the puller it should be a "lightbulb". I have never damaged one with a puller but I have only done a few over 30 maybe. So can't give a 1-100 stat yet. If you get worried then call the plumber the local hardware store recommends. He is cheaper and his family depends on it. And chances are he is a real plumber not a text book salesman.

 

[Jamesplumbing06]

Ps no one has given you plans for a diverter. I don't know that much about the Internet. But those are just valve diagrams. Diverter a are separate peice all together. It will be a stand alone unit. I can make any valve work with any stand alone diverter. So the diverter isn't "included" in a diagram of a valve. Is it a 3 or 4 position diverter and what year was it bought?

 

[Mr_David]

Ps no one has given you plans for a diverter. ?

Thanks for the help, but look again. Post #10 was taken from the OP's link to the fixture he has. That is the diverter for his unit.
The second diagram is only in regards to the tool I had mentioned earlier.

And I understand why you made the PS comment. reading and absorbing every detail in a post can sometimes get past you. I do that sometimes.

 

[Jamesplumbing06]

My bad I did look over that diagram. It's ready to pull. All the retaining nuts at off.

 

[johnpa]

no luck pulling it out..any other suggestions. i appreciate all the help!!